ultraungar 发表于 2016-8-16 11:55

Relentless pdf

本帖最后由 ultraungar 于 2016-8-16 13:50 编辑

https://archive.org/details/relentless_201607
English book by Go Game Guru on Lee Sedol vs Gu Li games
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Published 2016
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hahihuhei 发表于 2016-8-16 12:15

本帖最后由 hahihuhei 于 2016-8-16 13:08 编辑

The author strongly disagree on spreading this pdf without their permission.
This book is published by gogameguru.com with a couple of professional player about GU-LEE JUBANGO and sell on gogameguru.com at 50 USD. It received a very good reviews in english spoken GO community.
Some fellow harass the publisher repeatedly. The publisher was not able to handle it but send him this pdf. This pdf has numerous of mistake( double G in pg 69 etc).
The are a lot of pros, author trying to contribute to the world of GO, I think they deserved the credit for their effort.
Sometimes, please do not support piracy.
As one day, everyone will be cold-hearted, and the world of GO will eventually fade away.

作者强烈反对任何不仅授权地散播此pdf,该书为gogameguru.com制作团队联合一些职业棋手写的古李十番棋精解,在gogameguru.com上贩卖五十美金,在英语棋友圈掀起很大的回响,好评如潮。某网友无所不用其极的骚扰制作团队,制作团队无奈下只好发给该网友以上的pdf,但是此版pdf有无数小错误(69页有两个G之类的)。
很多的职业棋手和作者在为推广围棋做努力,我觉得有些东西是他们应得的(买书所得)。
有时不支持盗版是好的。
不然总有一天大家都被寒了心,围棋界终会走向灭亡。

ultraungar 发表于 2016-8-16 12:55

https://www.reddit.com/r/baduk/comments/4ms0vu/update_on_relentless_ebook/

Quoting gogameguru (the author)
As with most of the content on our website, Relentless was licensed under this Creative Commons license so that the content could be translated, used by teachers or as examples on wikis, built upon and shared within the Go community, etc. You're free to download it and share it with your friends -- and if you like the book and can afford to do so, we hope that you will also buy a copy so that we can continue to write books in the future. All of this is covered in the front matter of the book.

hahihuhei 发表于 2016-8-16 13:17

Please read carefully, these only means that whatever on gogameguru.com can be downloaded and shared. It does not mean that piracy is OK.

请不要断章取义,这段文字的意思是在gogameguru.com上的内容可以任意下载分享,不代表可以任意散发盗版书籍。

hahihuhei 发表于 2016-8-16 13:24

ultraungar 发表于 2016-8-16 11:55 static/image/common/back.gif
https://archive.org/details/relentless_201607
English book by Go Game Guru on Lee Sedol vs Gu Li ga ...

Whatever you shared here, is IN THE BOOK ITSELF.
Which means that is MEANT FOR THOSE WHO ACTUALLY BOUGHT THE BOOK. Only the book owner has the right to do those.
Please be alerted of what you are writing and find some solid evidence.

你现在分享的这些,都是印刷在实体书的内页的。
意思就是,只有真正买了这本书的人才有授权分享书里的内容。
请在任何发言前弄清楚自己写的什么。有凭有据才能服人。

ultraungar 发表于 2016-8-16 13:27

本帖最后由 ultraungar 于 2016-8-16 13:58 编辑

No, you read carefully.
As with most of the content on our website, Relentless was licensed under this Creative Commons license
So sharing Relentless non-commercially is not piracy. The book is not licensed under regular copyright. It is under Creative Commons license. The whole book is therefore shareable.
署名(BY)-非商业性使用(NC)-相同方式共享(SA)

See
https://creativecommons.org/licenses/?lang=zh
http://baike.baidu.com/view/1224852.htm


As long as the author released the file to the public under such a license, he has allowed the whole book to be freely shared non-commerically if properly attributed.

And please note that I have bought a hardcover copy of this book (USD79.99). I didn't originally have the pdf though until I found it on that link.

littly_22 发表于 2016-8-16 14:02

连蒙带猜~带比划~也不知道该支持谁:$

hahihuhei 发表于 2016-8-16 14:14

ultraungar 发表于 2016-8-16 13:27 static/image/common/back.gif
No, you read carefully.

So sharing Relentless non-commercially is not piracy. The book is not lic ...

Please be reasonable, if that fellow did not share this pdf to the world, the author will not have to made this announcement. HE HAD NO CHOICE but to be generous.

One can always find a hole in current system. Things can be totally legal in many ways, but is it ethically correct? That's another question one should ask him/herself.a

请讲讲道理(忽然化大师上身:lol),如果当初那个家伙没把这个pdf公诸于世的话,作者就不会做这样的声明。实属无奈之举,“既然事情发生了,就慷慨点吧的意思。”

人总有钻空子的办法,很多事情都能以各种方式合法化,但是这样做在道义上真的对吗?请扪心自问。

hahihuhei 发表于 2016-8-16 14:18

ultraungar 发表于 2016-8-16 13:27 static/image/common/back.gif
No, you read carefully.

So sharing Relentless non-commercially is not piracy. The book is not lic ...

Then please share the proper copy, the author promised to send the pdf to those who purchased.
If the author yet to send you the copy, we can wait together:)

既然你买了,就请分享正式版,作者承诺把pdf发给买了的人。
如果作者还没有发给你,我们可以陪你一起等:)

ultraungar 发表于 2016-8-16 14:23

Would be nice when I receive it but currently gogameguru.com is down and no one knows anything about what is happening with them since June 2016.

泡泡沙 发表于 2016-8-16 14:24

这都是什么鬼?:L

hahihuhei 发表于 2016-8-16 14:25

ultraungar 发表于 2016-8-16 14:23 static/image/common/back.gif
Would be nice when I receive it but currently gogameguru.com is down and no one knows anything about ...

Just hope they recover quickly, they are the only few choices for english go fans.

大毛2 发表于 2016-8-16 14:30

PDF在哪里啊

ultraungar 发表于 2016-8-16 14:34

https://archive.org/details/relentless_201607

大毛2 发表于 2016-8-16 14:40

ultraungar 发表于 2016-8-16 14:34 static/image/common/back.gif
https://archive.org/details/relentless_201607

我这里 这个链接打不开。:(
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